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		<title>By: Happy Birthday, Web of Documents. Now bring on the Web of Data! &#124; Paul Miller</title>
		<link>http://cloudofdata.com/2009/02/linked-data-and-the-enterprise-a-viable-two-way-street/comment-page-1/#comment-283</link>
		<dc:creator>Happy Birthday, Web of Documents. Now bring on the Web of Data! &#124; Paul Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 09:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] spoke at TED last month, and I wrote about it at the time. ReadWriteWeb has an article today that includes the video of that presentation, which [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Semantic Web aka. Web 3.0 aka. Linked Data for people &#124; evo42 communications Ltd. &#124; evolving web 1.5 to 4.2</title>
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		<dc:creator>Semantic Web aka. Web 3.0 aka. Linked Data for people &#124; evo42 communications Ltd. &#124; evolving web 1.5 to 4.2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 18:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Talking about Data and the Cloud at TTI/Vanguard, San Diego &#124; Paul Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Talking about Data and the Cloud at TTI/Vanguard, San Diego &#124; Paul Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 22:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kingsley Idehen</title>
		<link>http://cloudofdata.com/2009/02/linked-data-and-the-enterprise-a-viable-two-way-street/comment-page-1/#comment-213</link>
		<dc:creator>Kingsley Idehen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 21:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Edited version:
So when an enterprise determines there is value to be exploited via the selected internal-external data mesh, they will expose units of value via published URIs.

URIs are the digital brand insignia.
Basically, the size of the brand emblem is shrinking, but the opportunity space is increasing exponentially, courtesy of Linked Data density.

For example, traditional media (TV, Radio, Newspapers) will feel lots of pain on the traditional media side (GIANT emblems such as TV screens, Radios, and Newspaper) but once they realize there is a natural (and relative) &quot;master-details&quot; relationship in play, exploitable within the Web (courtesy of Linked Data), they will get with the program -- as demonstrated by Calais effort.

&quot;Units of context&quot; separated by quality associated with URIs is how this will eventually play out (enterprise and personal fronts) market and economy wise.

Kingsley</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Edited version:<br />
So when an enterprise determines there is value to be exploited via the selected internal-external data mesh, they will expose units of value via published URIs.</p>
<p>URIs are the digital brand insignia.<br />
Basically, the size of the brand emblem is shrinking, but the opportunity space is increasing exponentially, courtesy of Linked Data density.</p>
<p>For example, traditional media (TV, Radio, Newspapers) will feel lots of pain on the traditional media side (GIANT emblems such as TV screens, Radios, and Newspaper) but once they realize there is a natural (and relative) &#8220;master-details&#8221; relationship in play, exploitable within the Web (courtesy of Linked Data), they will get with the program &#8212; as demonstrated by Calais effort.</p>
<p>&#8220;Units of context&#8221; separated by quality associated with URIs is how this will eventually play out (enterprise and personal fronts) market and economy wise.</p>
<p>Kingsley</p>
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		<title>By: Kingsley Idehen</title>
		<link>http://cloudofdata.com/2009/02/linked-data-and-the-enterprise-a-viable-two-way-street/comment-page-1/#comment-212</link>
		<dc:creator>Kingsley Idehen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 21:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So when an enterprise determine there is value in the internal external data mesh, the will publish using their URIs. 

URIs are the digital brand insignia.

Basically, the size of the brand emblem is shrinking, but the opportunity space is increasing exponentially courtesy of Linked Data density.

For example traditional media (TV, Radio, Newspapers) will feel lots of pain on the traditional media side (GIANT emblems such as TV screens, Radios, and Newspaper) but once they realize there is a natural  (and relative) \master-details\ relationship exploitable within the Web (courtesy of Linked Data), they will get with the program, as demonstrated by Calais already :-)

Units of \context\ separated by quality, exposed by URIs  is how this will eventually play out (enterprise and personal fronts).

Kingsley</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So when an enterprise determine there is value in the internal external data mesh, the will publish using their URIs. </p>
<p>URIs are the digital brand insignia.</p>
<p>Basically, the size of the brand emblem is shrinking, but the opportunity space is increasing exponentially courtesy of Linked Data density.</p>
<p>For example traditional media (TV, Radio, Newspapers) will feel lots of pain on the traditional media side (GIANT emblems such as TV screens, Radios, and Newspaper) but once they realize there is a natural  (and relative) \master-details\ relationship exploitable within the Web (courtesy of Linked Data), they will get with the program, as demonstrated by Calais already <img src='http://cloudofdata.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Units of \context\ separated by quality, exposed by URIs  is how this will eventually play out (enterprise and personal fronts).</p>
<p>Kingsley</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Tague</title>
		<link>http://cloudofdata.com/2009/02/linked-data-and-the-enterprise-a-viable-two-way-street/comment-page-1/#comment-210</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Tague</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 20:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andreas:

You win the prize. Your point is fundamental to some  of the underlying strategy behind Calais. We have an exploding universe of content - from content publishers like Thomson Reuters to user generated content to social media to ... 

People want to make decisions, gain insights and understand context using all of it - but the trust you can put into different content sources varies wildly. So - if we can gain interoperability using (Calais + Thomson Reuters Data + Linked Data Cloud + Other content assets) - we set the stage to empower users to bring *everything* together for the task at hand. 

Professionals trust Thomson Reuters content - so we&#039;re confident we&#039;ll have a role to play in all that. In fact - as we&#039;re part of the trusted content universe then the more content the better. 

Make sense?

Regards,

Tom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andreas:</p>
<p>You win the prize. Your point is fundamental to some  of the underlying strategy behind Calais. We have an exploding universe of content &#8211; from content publishers like Thomson Reuters to user generated content to social media to &#8230; </p>
<p>People want to make decisions, gain insights and understand context using all of it &#8211; but the trust you can put into different content sources varies wildly. So &#8211; if we can gain interoperability using (Calais + Thomson Reuters Data + Linked Data Cloud + Other content assets) &#8211; we set the stage to empower users to bring *everything* together for the task at hand. </p>
<p>Professionals trust Thomson Reuters content &#8211; so we&#8217;re confident we&#8217;ll have a role to play in all that. In fact &#8211; as we&#8217;re part of the trusted content universe then the more content the better. </p>
<p>Make sense?</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Tom</p>
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		<title>By: <img src='http://cloudofdata.com/wp-content/plugins/rpx/images/openid.png'/> Paul Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator><img src='http://cloudofdata.com/wp-content/plugins/rpx/images/openid.png'/> Paul Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 19:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kingsley - good points, as usual...

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;The message for enterprises should be more along the lines of: mesh relevant internal data with external data, and where you see economic value, publish.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Exactly - which is where I was going with

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;We have an annoying tendency to view data in our databases as an indivisible mass, vigorously and unthinkingly applying the same (expensive) protections to an uninteresting and low-value factoid of underlying context as we do to the core attributes of our next big lead.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Paul</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kingsley &#8211; good points, as usual&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;The message for enterprises should be more along the lines of: mesh relevant internal data with external data, and where you see economic value, publish.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Exactly &#8211; which is where I was going with</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;We have an annoying tendency to view data in our databases as an indivisible mass, vigorously and unthinkingly applying the same (expensive) protections to an uninteresting and low-value factoid of underlying context as we do to the core attributes of our next big lead.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Paul</p>
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		<title>By: <img src='http://cloudofdata.com/wp-content/plugins/rpx/images/openid.png'/> Paul Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator><img src='http://cloudofdata.com/wp-content/plugins/rpx/images/openid.png'/> Paul Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 18:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andreas

I think I can hear Tom&#039;s vehement response... but maybe I&#039;ll let him deliver it...  :-)

Paul</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andreas</p>
<p>I think I can hear Tom&#8217;s vehement response&#8230; but maybe I&#8217;ll let him deliver it&#8230;  <img src='http://cloudofdata.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Paul</p>
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		<title>By: Andreas Blumauer</title>
		<link>http://cloudofdata.com/2009/02/linked-data-and-the-enterprise-a-viable-two-way-street/comment-page-1/#comment-207</link>
		<dc:creator>Andreas Blumauer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 18:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Paul for the dialogue, in the meantime another idea came into my mind, how linked data infrastructure could be used: for more accurate predictions, for instance in the financial world.
Might be interesting to hear Tom Tague´s opionion if OpenCalais + Reuters Content + LOD cloud in combination will be able to serve for such things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Paul for the dialogue, in the meantime another idea came into my mind, how linked data infrastructure could be used: for more accurate predictions, for instance in the financial world.<br />
Might be interesting to hear Tom Tague´s opionion if OpenCalais + Reuters Content + LOD cloud in combination will be able to serve for such things.</p>
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		<title>By: Kingsley Idehen</title>
		<link>http://cloudofdata.com/2009/02/linked-data-and-the-enterprise-a-viable-two-way-street/comment-page-1/#comment-206</link>
		<dc:creator>Kingsley Idehen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 18:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul,

The case for enterprise Linked Data is pretty old. Enterprises have always sought and invested in technologies that provide &quot;Open Database Connectivity&quot;. 

A  point of Linked Data intertia for enterprise, which isn&#039;t technical or conceptual, lies in the perception that &quot;put your data on the Web&quot; literally means: put all your data on the Web. The message for enterprises should be more along the lines of: mesh relevant internal data with external data, and where you see economic value, publish. This is what you see with Calais, BBC, and more to come.

As I&#039;ve articulated repeatedly, in relation to the enterprise, Linked Data is about &quot;shrinking Data Source Names&quot; (DSNs). DSNs are well known and understood in the enterprise realm, they just need to know that via the Linked Data meme the following happens:

1. The DSN shrinks i.e., its reduced to an ID or URI
2. The ID or URI is now scoped at the record level rather than container level (table or database)
3. Courtesy of HTTP intrinsics  the representation of the results of a query targeted at the ID or URI (DSN)  is negotiable (you don&#039;t need a new Report Writing tool to view data analysis,just put a URI in your browser and &quot;self description&quot; via the entity-attribute-value graph that is RDF does its thing).

Most importantly, how does Linked Data handle security (enterprise or Web or combination of)? Until the recent foaf+ssl initiative, this was completely problematic for Linked Data purity (i.e., the follow-your-nose process of de-referencing hyperdata links). Simple example, how do I not inadvertently expose customer or private data to the wrong people via Linked Data?

To conclude, enterprises will get on board with Linked Data becuase they&#039;ve always thought they had linked data until they hit operating system, dbms, application, and network lock-in. The ingenious use of HTTP to construct Entity IDs (URIs) solves that hurdle. The emergence of foaf+ssl addresses the security concerns (note, in the enterprise realm of ODBC, JDBC etc.. client side certificates are rife and normal occurences).

Links:
1. http://bit.ly/1DgFul - My Linked Data Planet Presentation (target audience: Enterprise)

2. http://www.slideshare.net/bblfish/building-secure-open-distributed-social-networks-presentation - foaf+ssl in a nutshell courtesy of Linked Data exploitation

3. http://esw.w3.org/topic/foaf+ssl - main information space re. this effort.

Kingsley</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul,</p>
<p>The case for enterprise Linked Data is pretty old. Enterprises have always sought and invested in technologies that provide &#8220;Open Database Connectivity&#8221;. </p>
<p>A  point of Linked Data intertia for enterprise, which isn&#8217;t technical or conceptual, lies in the perception that &#8220;put your data on the Web&#8221; literally means: put all your data on the Web. The message for enterprises should be more along the lines of: mesh relevant internal data with external data, and where you see economic value, publish. This is what you see with Calais, BBC, and more to come.</p>
<p>As I&#8217;ve articulated repeatedly, in relation to the enterprise, Linked Data is about &#8220;shrinking Data Source Names&#8221; (DSNs). DSNs are well known and understood in the enterprise realm, they just need to know that via the Linked Data meme the following happens:</p>
<p>1. The DSN shrinks i.e., its reduced to an ID or URI<br />
2. The ID or URI is now scoped at the record level rather than container level (table or database)<br />
3. Courtesy of HTTP intrinsics  the representation of the results of a query targeted at the ID or URI (DSN)  is negotiable (you don&#8217;t need a new Report Writing tool to view data analysis,just put a URI in your browser and &#8220;self description&#8221; via the entity-attribute-value graph that is RDF does its thing).</p>
<p>Most importantly, how does Linked Data handle security (enterprise or Web or combination of)? Until the recent foaf+ssl initiative, this was completely problematic for Linked Data purity (i.e., the follow-your-nose process of de-referencing hyperdata links). Simple example, how do I not inadvertently expose customer or private data to the wrong people via Linked Data?</p>
<p>To conclude, enterprises will get on board with Linked Data becuase they&#8217;ve always thought they had linked data until they hit operating system, dbms, application, and network lock-in. The ingenious use of HTTP to construct Entity IDs (URIs) solves that hurdle. The emergence of foaf+ssl addresses the security concerns (note, in the enterprise realm of ODBC, JDBC etc.. client side certificates are rife and normal occurences).</p>
<p>Links:<br />
1. <a href="http://bit.ly/1DgFul" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/1DgFul</a> &#8211; My Linked Data Planet Presentation (target audience: Enterprise)</p>
<p>2. <a href="http://www.slideshare.net/bblfish/building-secure-open-distributed-social-networks-presentation" rel="nofollow">http://www.slideshare.net/bblfish/building-secure-open-distributed-social-networks-presentation</a> &#8211; foaf+ssl in a nutshell courtesy of Linked Data exploitation</p>
<p>3. <a href="http://esw.w3.org/topic/foaf+ssl" rel="nofollow">http://esw.w3.org/topic/foaf+ssl</a> &#8211; main information space re. this effort.</p>
<p>Kingsley</p>
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