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	<title>Comments on: Before the Open Cloud Manifesto; a quite remarkable furore over a document few have seen</title>
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		<title>By: Krish</title>
		<link>http://cloudofdata.com/2009/03/before-the-open-cloud-manifesto-a-quite-remarkable-furore-over-a-document-few-have-seen/comment-page-1/#comment-504</link>
		<dc:creator>Krish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 16:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul, great post. I hope people give a chance to the folks behind Open Cloud Manifesto to spell out what it is before criticizing it. This is my position too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul, great post. I hope people give a chance to the folks behind Open Cloud Manifesto to spell out what it is before criticizing it. This is my position too.</p>
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		<title>By: Before the Open Cloud Manifesto; a quite remarkable furore over a document few have seen &#124; CloudAve</title>
		<link>http://cloudofdata.com/2009/03/before-the-open-cloud-manifesto-a-quite-remarkable-furore-over-a-document-few-have-seen/comment-page-1/#comment-320</link>
		<dc:creator>Before the Open Cloud Manifesto; a quite remarkable furore over a document few have seen &#124; CloudAve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 19:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Article cross-posted from The Cloud of Data. Note; the draft Manifesto has subsequently been shared by Geva Perry, so you can look at that, at least, for yourself.Open, Interoperable services in the Cloud. Sounds like a no-brainer, eh? Well over the past 24 hours or so, a plethora of blogs, mailing lists and social networks have been getting extremely agitated over some nascent efforts intended to support exactly that. And, what’s more, the vast majority of those getting most agitated haven’t even seen the document in question. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Article cross-posted from The Cloud of Data. Note; the draft Manifesto has subsequently been shared by Geva Perry, so you can look at that, at least, for yourself.Open, Interoperable services in the Cloud. Sounds like a no-brainer, eh? Well over the past 24 hours or so, a plethora of blogs, mailing lists and social networks have been getting extremely agitated over some nascent efforts intended to support exactly that. And, what’s more, the vast majority of those getting most agitated haven’t even seen the document in question. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: <img src='http://cloudofdata.com/wp-content/plugins/rpx/images/openid.png'/> Paul Miller</title>
		<link>http://cloudofdata.com/2009/03/before-the-open-cloud-manifesto-a-quite-remarkable-furore-over-a-document-few-have-seen/comment-page-1/#comment-319</link>
		<dc:creator><img src='http://cloudofdata.com/wp-content/plugins/rpx/images/openid.png'/> Paul Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 19:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed. And thanks for the comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed. And thanks for the comment.</p>
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		<title>By: <img src='http://cloudofdata.com/wp-content/plugins/rpx/images/openid.png'/> samj</title>
		<link>http://cloudofdata.com/2009/03/before-the-open-cloud-manifesto-a-quite-remarkable-furore-over-a-document-few-have-seen/comment-page-1/#comment-318</link>
		<dc:creator><img src='http://cloudofdata.com/wp-content/plugins/rpx/images/openid.png'/> samj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post, though I&#039;d point out any tension was both &lt;a href=&quot;http://groups.google.com/group/cloudforum/browse_thread/thread/2f84faa81a04ba33/8bee63bb8d25e26c?#8bee63bb8d25e26c&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;justified&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://groups.google.com/group/cloudforum/browse_thread/thread/9604fca0dd5cb956/b9515d17d4e74430&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;resolved&lt;/a&gt; and the views of those (like yourself) who met the undisclosed inclusion criteria will certainly differ from &lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/timbray/status/1396134376&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;those who didn&#039;t&lt;/a&gt;.

Sam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post, though I&#8217;d point out any tension was both <a href="http://groups.google.com/group/cloudforum/browse_thread/thread/2f84faa81a04ba33/8bee63bb8d25e26c?#8bee63bb8d25e26c" rel="nofollow">justified</a> and <a href="http://groups.google.com/group/cloudforum/browse_thread/thread/9604fca0dd5cb956/b9515d17d4e74430" rel="nofollow">resolved</a> and the views of those (like yourself) who met the undisclosed inclusion criteria will certainly differ from <a href="http://twitter.com/timbray/status/1396134376" rel="nofollow">those who didn&#8217;t</a>.</p>
<p>Sam</p>
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		<title>By: Open Cloud Manifesto - The Fight Continues &#124; CloudAve</title>
		<link>http://cloudofdata.com/2009/03/before-the-open-cloud-manifesto-a-quite-remarkable-furore-over-a-document-few-have-seen/comment-page-1/#comment-317</link>
		<dc:creator>Open Cloud Manifesto - The Fight Continues &#124; CloudAve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] understanding of what is needed, will best serve customers.In the mean time, Paul Miller writes a very sensible post asking people to give the group behind Open Cloud Manifesto a chance to present themselves in [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] understanding of what is needed, will best serve customers.In the mean time, Paul Miller writes a very sensible post asking people to give the group behind Open Cloud Manifesto a chance to present themselves in [...]</p>
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		<title>By: <img src='http://cloudofdata.com/wp-content/plugins/rpx/images/openid.png'/> Krish</title>
		<link>http://cloudofdata.com/2009/03/before-the-open-cloud-manifesto-a-quite-remarkable-furore-over-a-document-few-have-seen/comment-page-1/#comment-316</link>
		<dc:creator><img src='http://cloudofdata.com/wp-content/plugins/rpx/images/openid.png'/> Krish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul, great post. I hope people give a chance to the folks behind Open Cloud Manifesto to spell out what it is before criticizing it. This is my position too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul, great post. I hope people give a chance to the folks behind Open Cloud Manifesto to spell out what it is before criticizing it. This is my position too.</p>
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		<title>By: <img src='http://cloudofdata.com/wp-content/plugins/rpx/images/facebook.png'/> Nic Brisbourne</title>
		<link>http://cloudofdata.com/2009/03/before-the-open-cloud-manifesto-a-quite-remarkable-furore-over-a-document-few-have-seen/comment-page-1/#comment-312</link>
		<dc:creator><img src='http://cloudofdata.com/wp-content/plugins/rpx/images/facebook.png'/> Nic Brisbourne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 12:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Paul - the practicalities of realpolitik always get people going!  Particularly when they feel shut out.

I will introduce you to Zeus shortly as there may be something we can do together there.  Give me a month or two though.

Just saw your DM come through!!

best,
N</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Paul &#8211; the practicalities of realpolitik always get people going!  Particularly when they feel shut out.</p>
<p>I will introduce you to Zeus shortly as there may be something we can do together there.  Give me a month or two though.</p>
<p>Just saw your DM come through!!</p>
<p>best,<br />
N</p>
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